My conversation with Dylan Avery, complete with full dissection!

Last night, I was banned from the Loose Change forum for expressing the view that 9/11 was indeed committed by terrorists and not the government. Well, I wanted some shit to hit the fan, so I contacted Dylan Avery, the creator of the Loose Change movie and self righteous idiot, to talk about my banning and how come he's not bothering to say anything scientific. Here's the conversation we had, there may be spelling and grammatical errors, and I told him beforehand that I would be putting this up to be seen, but he responded with no mention of the blog. If he told me not to put it up, I would have had the decency to keep it a secret. So, here's Dylan's big moment in the spotlight of shame! We start with me, after my banning after a deranged and crazy 13 year old thought I was a shill:

Hi Dylan,
I'm not going to bother protesting my ban from your boards since I think the boards are stupid and you keep trying to milk the CT cow. But that's not even the point. You probably banned me because I called your film a mockumentary right? I'm not sorry. You present speculation as evidence and then give it to 13 year olds thereby creating a new opiate for the masses, as Karl Marx would like to describe. I'm just wondering that after all these years of creating these films and starting this truth movement, why you're still alive. I would expect that the Bush government would probably create some sort of accident and have you silenced. Well, I'm just speculating here, like you do in your films. Finally, don't worry, I'm back on the forums already. Try to block my IP, I'm on a proxy server. Toodles and a Happy New Year!

The Silver Shadow!

Yep, that's hatemail alright! Just wanting to tell him that his film doesn't address any facts or anything at all. Either way, I'll just continue on with Dylan's response:

See, this is why you're not welcome. Your childish attitude.

-Dylan

Snazzy response there Dylan! You sure as hell convinced me. Not really in the mood yet to start anything and still not acknowledging him:

Whatever.

I wasn't interested in starting any sort of argument just yet. I was just testing him to see whether he would respond or not. Dylan does respond, a little insecure now:

See?

Yep, Dylan decides to be a little random. Nice to see that some people have humour. I respond back with a bit of my own dry humour:

No, just like your mockumentary.

Not feeling that I had entirely justified what I said, I continued:

If you want the truth, Dylan, then I'll tell you. I was intrigued by your film at first, but then after snooping around, I found your film to be a factual nightmare. There are no facts, simply speculation and even then, your film doesn't look at the entire speculation, just the one that suits your needs and doesn't show the entire picture. Call that childish? I'll just wait until your final cut comes out, I'll be sure to get the dvd. It'll be a crappy film but it should make a good coaster. Anyways, see you on the forum, you can never get rid of a shadow!
The Silver Shadow

I decided to get wise with him. He comes back on his high and mighty horse. He acts high and mighty, but it's all empty, like my fridge at home:

You'll be watching it in American theaters. I'm sorry that you can
actually discount factual things like Northwoods and the wargames as
"speculation," but at least you've found bliss in ignorance. Keep
throwing insults and cutesy phrases.
-Dylan

Now, Dylan has spit out the regular speculation that he and his followers take for fact. I think it's wise to say that no regular person would take what he said about Northwoods and the wargames as fact since there is no link between these, yet he's speculating that there IS a link! I give him my mind:

Northwoods and the wargames don't prove anything. It's just that there's speculation, it's not fact. If you want to convince me, where are the real facts? I think you're just going along with the whole CT thing because it makes you money. I honestly think that you don't believe the things you say but you say it so you can rake in a little more.

I admit it, I gave a cheap shot there. I talked dirty about the fact that he likes to rake in money. Any smart person knows that it's not about the money but rather the principle of the argument. Naturally, this specimen fires back:

Well, guess what, you're wrong on that one, like I've told you people a
million times. How does spending $30,000 of our own money over one
weekend to educate people for free "in it for the money"?

This is why you're not welcome.

-Dylan

Well, there are two possible reasons Dylan. One, the money doesn't mean a lot to you and you're just not a cautious spender (Stupid reason) or two, you make a lot of money and $30,000 in one weekend probably means nothing to you. Maybe you're not showing the entire story Dylan, just like you don't show the entire story about 9/11. Also, how come you acknowledged that Northwoods and the wargames are speculation? Finally, I never inquired as to why I'm not welcome so he's just creating a little more bs for the taking. I decide that a little insulting probably wouldn't hurt him, so here it is:

Whatever, I'm not interested in your finances or anything like that. I just speculated, like what you do in your film. You have yet to give me scientific evidence.

Thus starts me demanding evidence that's proper and not speculation. He fires back:

"Whatever" again. Good counter. You ARE interested in my finances
because you brought them up, not me.

-Dylan

He ignores my request for evidence and goes to the part most pertaining to himself. Dylan Avery, the world doesn't revolve around you. It didn't revolve around Saddam Hussein, it won't revolve around a stupid man-child from New York state who is probably wearing the tin-foil hat to prevent the government from reading their brain waves. But the thing is, tin-foil hats increase the radio waves coming from our brain thus making it easier for the government to read your minds. I did my research, don't ask or rebut what I said! Anyhow, I'm just going on:

I guess you don't like it when I speculate yet you do it in your film like crazy. I really couldn't care what you do with your own money. Whether it's spending it on "educating" people or on hookers, I couldn't care less. Where's that scientific evidence?

Serves him right. I ask the infamous question again. He replies back 28 minutes later with:

good riddance.

This got me on the floor laughing. Dylan spends 28 minutes finding evidence, can't find it, needs an excuse and sees time fly by. Replies with good riddance to have me on my toes! I send back:

Is that the best counter you can come up with? I would expect that a prominent figure in the "9/11 truth movement" to have better counters. Well, since you can't seem to come up with scientific evidence or anything at all apart from speculation, which isn't fact, I'll just publish this conversation we had on my blog, when I get home later tonight. Speaking of which, I'm in the lab right now, all alone, and I was thinking, since I'm in a scientific institution, where is that scientific evidence?

Better counters couldn't come. I told him that I'll publish this conversation we had, he doesn't seem to care. It probably won't make a dent either because I'll be commented as a shill by those that are dumb enough to take Loose Change as the gospel truth! Either way, Dylan can't find evidence. I lead him on that I could use some evidence while I'm all alone with this specimen. Here is his final reply:

Because if I spent all day responding to the likes of you, I'd get
nothing done. I don't care if you're in a lab.

So, with the stronger evidence that he claims to have, he can't seem to counter my belief with any physics or anything that says that it indeed wasn't Arab terrorists. What a crying shame Dylan Avery. You really can't come up with anything to counter me and dismiss it as getting nothing done. I spent all day talking to you and in the meantime, got the new HDTV that my dad got for Christmas setup as well as having observed some drosophila, and going to the gym. Nice productive day, and Dylan's having trouble finding evidence and can't get anything done as a result. I'm still waiting for you. I sent off a final e-mail with more damning allegations to see if he would respond. He didn't bother replying. As said earlier by Dylan, good riddance. He has the mentality of a child, can only see one perspective, his own and anybody against that perspective is a shill.

Well, if you still believe what he says in his film, you really need to do your research. Dylan's mockumentary provides little, actually, no evidence and complete speculation. His method of research is simply reading one page, tearing out 3, read another page, tear out 3 more and conclude that the evidence doesn't add up. I've yet to be convinced, I show the truthers on the forum that it's indeed a terrorist attack orchestrated by an advanced terrorist network and I get banned. I guess I'm just a troll for truth! Anyhow Dylan, try to counter me. My e-mail's always open to your views and posts, unlike your forum!